News from PANUG/BizNix - April 23, 2003 http://panug.org - http://biznix.org ZEN Touchstone is teaching a Novell ZEN 4 class next week. They are offering a one time $800 discount for this class. The normal cost of the class is $1995.00. The down side is that there is very little time to make a decision. Contact Touchstone by Thursday afternoon at 503-699-6997. USED COMPUTERS by Ed Sawicki - Accelerated Learning Center / Tailored Computers The supply of used computers that I give away to PCC students learning Linux has dwindled. I'd like to replenish the supply. We can also use some of those small (2 to 4 GB) hard disks that are too small to be useful these days, and some slow CD-ROM drives. Also, old-style (16-bit) PCMCIA Ethernet cards would be useful. If you have used computers or working hard disks or CD-ROM drives you no longer need and wish to donate them to a worthy cause, please contact me at ed@alcpress.com FEEDBACK In response to Lorraine Renard's article yesterday, Ray Robert responds: Some of the articles referenced in this e-mail identify Oregon as one of the states that has passed a Super-DCMA bill. I can find no such provision in the Oregon Revised Statutes. SB655, specifically mentioned in the e-mail, is merely a pending bill. The commentary overlooks that what lawyers call "mens rea" (guilty intent) has to be proven to convict someone of a crime. Running a firewall or VPN is a necessary element of the misdemeanor that SB655 would create, but only if it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it was done "for the purpose of ... theft or disruption." So SB655 won't result in the wholesale arrest of system administrators. It's hard to see how a honeypot could run afoul of the proposed law. Section 3 of the bill would establish a related tort (right to sue), but the plaintiff would still have to prove that the firewall, VPN, etc., was being used as part of a scheme of theft or disruption. DISCLAIMER PANUG and BizNix welcome contributions from all members. Member contributions do not necessarily represent the official positions of PANUG or BizNix. If you don't contribute, the views of members that contribute frequently may appear to be the official position of the group(s).